Question:
can i have some validation?
MnKLmT
2007-03-16 16:32:41 UTC
i suffered depression as a teenager. i went off of my medication for over four years, and used exercise, diet, vitamins, and coping skill s to deal.

recently, that all stopped working. (well, for over 8 months) and i decided to get on medication again, and i was diagnosed with bipolar disoprder.. but no one in my life, including my husband give it any validation. i can't afford to see a psychiatrist... and i feel so alone because no one believes its real. they say it's all in my head and make me feel guilty for taking my medication.

please someone make me feel better
Thirteen answers:
2007-03-16 16:50:10 UTC
Nothing irritates me more than the average layperson trying to act as though he is a doctor and is able to make a diagnosis. No, I take that back--one thing irritates me more, and that is when somebody invalidates me in any way.



I understand, believe me. People invalidate my medical problems and say they are all mental. I have both medical and mental problems, but they invalidate the medical ones. I have no idea why. But why waste my precious time trying to prove anything to them? Who cares what they think? It's my life. I care what God thinks. And I have no reason to worry about what others think as long as I am a good, honest, decent person.



Remember, doctors are doctors and nobody else is a doctor. Think of it this way--others just don't know any better and should not act as though they do. Do what you need to do for yourself.
pamomof4
2007-03-16 23:41:50 UTC
depression is NOT in your head..it is a disease! If your not seeing a psychiatrist, then how are you going to continue getting your meds? They do have free and lo cost clinics that I'm sure will help you. Call your local social service department, they will be more than happy to point you in the right direction. They might even have a telephone hot line that can give you the information you need. You MUST see a doctor, not just for the meds but for someone to listen to you especially since your not getting any support at home (which is horrible of them). Do you have any good friends that will help you thru this? Sometimes I find friends are more supportive than family.

Good Luck!
Dillon W
2007-03-16 23:42:45 UTC
Bipolar disorder is one of the few psychological disorders that I consider real and not just in your head. Its caused then the glands in your brain get blocked and you get too much of one hormone and not the other, then your brain shuts off the too much one and adds more energy to the one not getting through. Even if its just a little bit right now, it can get bigger so if your doctor says its so I suggest taking the medication for a few months and the disorder could be cured. If youre still feeling the effects it could be worse than you think and perhaps a side effect of previous medication.
sweet pea
2007-03-16 23:39:45 UTC
If you live near a University, you can usually receive treatment for this as part of a research study at no cost. Maybe you can join a support group that doesn't cost anything. Bipolar Disorder is very real, and you need support. There may be some online support groups, too. It is not in your head; there is much research to support the reality of this disease.
canadaguy
2007-03-16 23:52:49 UTC
Try looking for relevant support groups in your area. They are the cheapest form of group therapy there is and even A.A( alcoholics Anonymous) works this way. If you've never been, check it out - I'm not saying you are one ,I don't know you but they don't judge, they listen and even if no one at a meeting has been through exactly what you have, between them they have been through similar things. It sounds more psychological(emotions) than psychiatric ? And it is all in your head- ha ha. Unless you have a swollen big toe making you sad you haven't told me about! Good luck!



P.S. no one can give us guilt unless we choose to accept it from them.
B. Gregory
2007-03-16 23:40:57 UTC
This is deep... I dont know what kind of an answer you're looking for but i think that maybe you should keep your emotions to yourself and deal with your problem the best way you know how. I'm sure that no one meant any harm in their advise but they shouldn't take it so likely either. I wish there was something i could do to help you feel better.



Dont ever feel like you're along, we love you and we're here if you need us...



Peace
dtwladyhawk
2007-03-16 23:41:07 UTC
Find a Mental Health Clinic they charge on a sliding scale, also get a medicaid card and apply for SSI for you bipolar disorder diagnosis. You need peace and understanding if they can't do that for you wait til you get your money and move. I am serious, bi-polars need serenity. I am bipolar and a retired psych social worker.
2007-03-16 23:38:34 UTC
My co-worker was diagnosed with it, too. Also, insurance pays for psychiatric costs, that's if you have insurance.



Good luck to you, it's a very very real condition. Your husband should cut you tons of slack on this one, it can be very debilitating (which I am sure you are well aware of).



Good luck to you, you have much courage.
Nagitar™
2007-03-16 23:37:05 UTC
who diagnosed you? You would have had to see a psychiatrist to be diagnosed with bi-polar disorder and to get your meds.
jen s
2007-03-17 01:13:50 UTC
Research it print it out and show them proof. thats what i did when i was diagnosed with panic disorder and my family thought i was nuts and that it was all in my head.
The Rabbi
2007-03-16 23:37:41 UTC
You're ok, just tired. Take it easy and take care of yourself.



Work on self-esteem a lot.
2007-03-16 23:40:34 UTC
http://www.cchr.org/index.cfm/8771



http://breggin.com



http://sntp.net



http://antipsychiatry.org
2007-03-17 05:16:25 UTC
To be happy see this video;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4P5Pmdvgp4



About Psychiatry see this video:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3895596783332855545&q=psychiatry+is+fraude&hl=en



Understanding Psychiatry:



"Psychiatry is not the same as neurology; whereas neurology treats diseases that have their aetiology or their physiology known and proven by medical science, psychiatry treats mental conditions where aetiology and physiology are both unknown and unproven.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_diseases



Psychiatry is not the same as Psychology; whereas Psychology studies the cognitive and subconscious mental processes of man with no regard towards physiology; Psychiatry studies theoretical mental disorder with the assumption that those disorders are based on physiological deficiencies.



Psychology develops therapies aimed to improve mans cognitive processes; whereas Psychiatry develops physiological treatments to treat theoretical physiological deficiencies where aetiology and physiology are both unknown and unproven.



The unscientific assumption that mental disorders are based on physiological deficiencies creates an arbitrary that makes any further research done by Psychiatry unscientific. You can’t base science on assumptions and arbitraries.



Psychiatry treats theoretical mental disorders with theoretical physiological treatments.



Examples of Psychiatric theoretical mental disorders:

Premenstrual dysphonic disorder (PMDD) is a severe form of premenstrual syndrome.

Gender identity disorder: If you are gay you have this disorder.

Female orgasmic disorder: Many types of conditions are under this code.

Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders published by the American Psychiatric Association. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DSM-IV_Codes_%28alphabetical%29

As you see, these mental disorders are actually unscientific arbitraries based solely on opinion.



Examples of Psychiatric theoretical physiological treatments:

1st Example

Electroconvulsive therapy is a barbaric treatment where brain damage is induced into the patient by passing 70 to 200 volts of electricity through your brain. The electro shock and the heat further produce more brain damage by the effect decomposition and toxicity of dead brain cells. The only benefit of Electroconvulsive therapy is that it produces memory loss and amnesia. So the patient forgets its problems. Electroconvulsive therapy has caused death, coma and disabilities on patients.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2431926628202445879

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2761074183936137060

“About 100,000 people in the USA undergo ECT every year.”

“The most commonly accepted theory is that ECT's mechanism of action is similar to that of antidepressant drugs and involves neurotransmitters, in particular dopaminergic, serotoninergic and noradrenergic systems.”

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroconvulsive_shock_therapy



2nd Example:

Lobotomy is another barbaric treatment developed by Psychiatry in the name of mental health. In this procedure brain damage is induced into the patient by cutting the connections to and from the prefrontal cortex or simply destroying it.

“Even lobotomy's proponents admitted that only one third of the operated patients would improve, while one-third remained the same, and one-third got worst (25 to 30 % is the proportion of spontaneous improvement in many kinds of mental diseases! Thus, a large proportion of the operated patients could have recovered without the lobotomy).

http://www.cerebromente.org.br/n02/historia/lobotomy.htm



3rd Example:

The chemical imbalance theory, this theory alleges that serotonin deficiency in the brain causes depression. The following video explains this theory.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR9vtdueubc&mode=related&search=



But this theory is not based in science and experts disagree:



“I spent the first several years of my career doing full-time research on brain serotonin metabolism, but I never saw any convincing evidence that any psychiatric disorder, including depression, results from a deficiency of brain serotonin. In fact, we cannot measure brain serotonin levels in living human beings so there is no way to test this theory. Some neuroscientists would question whether the theory is even viable, since the brain does not function in this way, as a hydraulic system”

Stanford psychiatrist David Burns, winner of the A.E. Bennett Award given by the Society for Biological Psychiatry for his research on serotonin metabolism, when asked about the scientific status of the serotonin theory in 2003.



“Although it is often stated with great confidence that depressed people have a serotonin or norepinephrine deficiency, the evidence actually contradicts these claims”

Professor Emeritus of Neuroscience Elliot Valenstein



“Indeed, no abnormality of serotonin in depression has ever been demonstrated”

Psychiatrist David Healy, former secretary of the British Association for Psychopharmacology and historian of the SSRIs, in Let Them Eat Prozac (2004).



“A sugar pill was more effective than either St. John’s Wort or the antidepressant Zoloft in providing relief to severely depressed patients, according to a new study that is unlikely to end the debate about the role of the popular supplement in treating the disorder.”

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3076831/



“…I wrote that Prozac was no more, and perhaps less, effective in treating major depression than prior medications…. I argued that the theories of brain functioning that led to the development of Prozac must be wrong or incomplete”

Brown University psychiatrist Peter Kramer, author of Listening to Prozac, which is often credited with popularizing SSRIs, in a clarifying letter to the New York Times in 2002.



“Some have argued that depression may be due to a deficiency of NE [norepinephrine] or 5-HT [serotonin] because the enhancement of noradrenergicnor serotonergic neurotransmission improves the symptoms of depression. However, this is akin to saying that because a rash on one’s arm improves with the use of a steroid cream; the rash must be due to a steroid deficiency”

Psychiatrists Pedro Delgado and Francisco Moreno, in “Role of Norepinephrine in Depression,” published in the Journal of Clinical Psychiatry in 2000.



We must be able to differentiate real scientific research against special interest research. The fact is that the chemical imbalance theory is unfounded because:

1) A connection of ‘emotional states’ and neurotransmission levels have not been established.

2) It is impossible to measure the serotonin levels in living human beings.

3) There is no evidence that brain cells produce and then reabsorb serotonin.



In the following video two college professor explain exactly what I’m saying in Fox News: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbTqjSfMPKA&mode=related&search=



We must understand that psychiatric drugs are a multi billion dollars industry, and that careful marketing campaigns are created to push these drugs. We can even say that the whole “Chemical Imbalance Theory” was created in an effort to market these drugs. We can also say that anti-depressants are actually a marketing name for stimulants and anti-psychotic are actually a marketing name for depressants.

Three types of drugs:



Narcotics: (OxyContin, Vicodin, Percocet), also known as analgesics or opiods are drugs that are prescribed for moderate to severe physical pain. They are abused because of their euphoric, sedating, and numbing effects. Narcotic abuse causes tolerance and dependence and the withdrawal symptoms are severe.



Depressants: (Xanax, Valium, Librium) are drugs that are prescribed to treat anxiety and sleep disorders. They are abused because of their sedating properties. With abuse, depressants cause tolerance and dependence and the withdrawal symptoms can be severe.



Stimulants: Ritalin, Dexedrine, Meridia) are prescribed to treat ADD/ADHD and other conditions such as asthma. They are abused because of their energizing and euphoric effects. Stimulants do not generally cause tolerance or dependence but abuse is associated with hostility and paranoia. There is also great risk for cardiovascular failure and seizures.



-Ritalin: Prescribed for individuals (usually children) who have attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), has a high potential for abuse and produces many of the same effects as cocaine or amphetamine. http://www.streetdrugs.org



Psychiatrists are not common people. Psychiatrists have a different point of view than the rest of society:

“A recent survey in the UK found that 83 per cent of psychiatrists thought that ECT( Electroconvulsive therapy) was more likely to be beneficial than harmful – this figure fell to 69 per cent of mental health nurses and 14 per cent of psychologists.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroconvulsive_therapy



So how come Psychiatrists have such a different point of view than Psychologists and the rest of society?

Whereas Psychologists confronts the human mind or psyche and understand that each person behaviors is an evolution of his own personal experiences. Psychiatrists are unable to confront the human psyche; Psychiatrists don’t care about your emotional issues or traumas; Psychiatrists only deal with man as an object, a biomechanical machine incapable of controlling his mental processes.



How else can you explain Psychiatry barbaric treatments? Like Electroconvulsive therapy, Lobotomies, strait jackets and severe drugging of patients. For them you are not a person; for them you are only a biomechanical machine. People that join the Psychiatric profession do it in order to learn to deal with man in a mechanical way.



The real role of Psychiatry in society is that they are psyche executioners of society. Whenever a person doesn’t conform with the behavioral rules of society they can be sent to a Psychiatrist. And the Psychiatrist enforces the person to conform by the use of multiple control mechanisms; these mechanisms are drugs, electroshock, lobotomies and incarceration (When you are committed into a Psychiatric hospital against your will you are being incarcerated and your freedom is taken away from you. After this the patients are so scared that they will do anything in order to get out of that place.).

The behavioral rules of society are clearly expressed in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders published by the American Psychiatric Association.



http://www.drugawareness.org/

http://www.adhdfraud.org/

http://www.escapefrompsychiatry.org/

http://www.antipsychiatry.org/

http://www.mindfreedom.org/

http://www.endofshock.com/

http://www.stopshrinks.org/

http://www.gwenolsen.com/

http://psychrights.org

http://www.prescriptionsuicide.com/

http://www.breggin.com/

http://www.healthyskepticism.org/

http://www.aspire.us/


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