Question:
my teachers think my panic attacks are nothing, is this true?
Carina
2008-06-12 00:04:39 UTC
recently ive been panicing and worrying alot over things that other people wudnt worry about. i went to lenworth clinic to talk about it, and they said that it sounds like i have panic attacks or a panic disorder, especially about school. i had a meeting with the headteacher yesterday, and he acted as tho jsut because my problems wasnt physical, that it didnt matter n that it was nothing.. he then said that after my exam which i was already nervous about i was to be taken to my lessons straight after by a teacher. after he said this i got so nervous i had sweaty palms, dizzy, stomach ache, shaking and couldnt stop myself from crying.. i ended up not doing my exam and going back home :( i wish i could go back but i get myself too worked up about going. the people from lenworth understood more and made me feel okay about it, but school was completely different and only cared about how the attendance looked bad for them. is there anything that could help me calm down? im 15 by the way.. x
Nine answers:
particlebored
2008-06-12 00:14:22 UTC
Mental problems are either always undertreated or overtreated. A lot of people disregard mental illnesses because they think it's not a real problem... but it is.



I have a panic disorder, and my boss at work almost fired me due to an episode I had during a rush and had to leave. She didn't accept the severity of the attack and didn't apologize afterwards, either.



Panic disorders are very real and should be treated just as professionally as psoriasis or diabetes.



Perhaps you could convince someone from Lenworth to speak to your school teachers and explain your situation. Your teachers might believe an adult.

Hang in there.



Good luck!
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2016-04-02 10:10:59 UTC
I'm sure you are not a troll -- I visited Norway a few years ago and learned trolls have long tails with a ball of fur at the end. There is a real problem with teachers who practice outside their area of competence. If you can do it without getting lots of school problems, you might share some of the following with her. None of the proposed "end of world" scenarios have any scientific basis. As to the Maya, it wasn't until 20 years ago or so that we had begun to read their inscriptions, let alone understand their calendar system well. There were larger cities in Mexico and central America than there were in Europe at the time not long before Columbus arrived. And, things weren't all sweetness and harmony -- there were wars, rumors of wars, human sacrifices, slavery and all the rest 1000 years ago, or 500 years before Columbus. Don't misunderstand the idea of "translating" a calendar. Did our calendar tell us the world was going to end at the end of the year 2000? No, it was the end of a year, a decade, a century and a millennium, but not the end of the world. December 31, 2000 was the end of all those cycles, and January 1, 2001 was the beginning of a new year, decade, century and millennium. The same thing was the case with the Maya calendar, which was based on a cycle, in turn based on a count of 20 (I guess the Maya didn't wear closed toe shoes, because they did their math "base-20" where we do ours "base-10"). Anyway, December 21 is the end of a Tun (a Maya year-like interval made of 20 "months" of 18 days, plus some 5 or 6 extra days like our leap day, to keep the calendar in sync with the astronomy. It is also the end of a Katun (a 20 year cycle) and a Baktun (a 400 year cycle of 20 Katun). This whole Baktun cycle lasts 144000 days. So it is the end of a Tun, Katun, and Baktun (the 13th Baktun). The next day starts a new Tun, Katun and Baktun (the 14th Baktun starts) and a new 144000 day cycle starts counting again, just as they had calculated 13 times in the past. The Maya did not predict the end of the world -- any more than Pope Gregory did when he developed our current calendar. The Maya "year" is called a "tun", and 20 of these is called a "katun". 20 katun is called a "baktun", about 4000 years, and on December 21, 2012, the 13th baktun will end, and on December 22, the 14th baktun will begin. This is just like December 31, 2000, the end of the 20th century and second millenium, and January 1, 2001, the beginning of the 21st century and third millenium. (I guess the Maya didn't wear closed-toe shoes, as they counted by 20s instead of 10s.) Planetary alignments and galactic alignments? No special planetary alignment occurs this year. Every year at the time of the Winter Solstice, the same alignment occurs, and nothing has happened. Back in December, 2004, there was an alignment such that in the early morning, Mercury was near the Eastern horizon, Venus was a bit above that, then Mars, Jupiter and Saturn each higher than the previous across the zodiac. With all these planets on the same side of the Earth-Sun line, nothing happened. The 11 year solar activity cycle is expected to peak sometime around mid-2013. This cycle has been going on (probably) forever, and sunspots were first observed by Galileo in the 1500s. This solar maximum is not expected to be as big as those back in the late 1950s and the one in the late 1960s. There are no known comets or asteroids or other objects expected to impact the Earth in the future, but astronomers continue to search, observe and calculate orbits to monitor any objects which are likely to collide with Earth. Same kind of discussion applies about any other "reason" for it. Given all the above, I recommend the following: 1. Don't run up your credit cards and other debts expecting that you won't have to pay them back after December 2012. 2. Don't skimp on your studies because you thought that by the end of 2012 it won't matter! 3. Remember that "I read on the internet that the world was going to end, so I didn't buy any Christmas presents" will sound really lame on Christmas morning. 4. This list could continue indefinitely...
anonymous
2016-05-18 06:39:50 UTC
I have read some litterature about panic attacks. But they allways seem to have a more scientific approach and that is nothing I need in my struggle to survive those horrible panic attacks. This is a "hand on" and very practical book. I felt it was written to me. I am sure that you are going to feel the same.



Joe Barry writes exactly how I think. The examples are perfectly described. And the method is genius. I recommend this book and thanks Joe Barry for writing it. It changes your life
v m
2008-06-12 00:40:42 UTC
You diffently are suffering with a panic disorder and anixity.



Continue going to this clinic as long as they are helping you.



You may have to get some meds. to help you cope with this disorder.



My husband has these symtoms as will and has gotten help through our congregation and friends their.



I don't agree with how the school is handling this, there should be someone above the teacher that you could talk to, such as the school supervisor or school board.



And if they don't help you, then I would write to the senator about there conduct about this issue.

This is not fair to you or any of the other students that may suffer with this disorder or other matters that they should be handled in a proffessional manner.



So hang in there dear, and don't give up, your not alone in this matter.
Swapped Shoe
2008-06-12 00:15:22 UTC
Your doctor's opinion should matter more than the teacher's.



It is normal to be nervous about school, but not to the point that it is almost impossible to stay there.



If you can't do it, it's not your fault. Get some more help with the anxiety problems.
anonymous
2008-06-12 00:25:27 UTC
No panic attacks are not nothing they are extremely distressing and your head sounds insensitive and well out of order, (but what's new?) . Can you get a mental health advocate to go speak to him and help him understand the gravity of your experience?
anonymous
2008-06-12 00:14:19 UTC
I get panic attacks too. :[ I take online school because of it. Being in crowds freak me out; I get this huge rush of anxiety. I had a nervous breakdown at school once. Everyone saw it happen and I couldn't take it. Maybe you should go see a psychologist. They understand.
shelly92555
2008-06-12 00:14:40 UTC
Go back over what you just wrote. You said that the people from lensworth understood you and made you feel better. Well, there is your answer. Go back to them and get more understanding until you feel better.
anonymous
2008-06-12 00:32:02 UTC
View the techniques for control of panic attacks, in section 8, in my website, at ezy build, below, which I created to contain all the information that there isn't enough space for, here. Begin, on this first occasion, only, by holding your breath for 5, or 10 seconds: this will give you the confidence to realise that YOU CAN CONTROL YOUR BREATHING, but not pass out, or die (your autonomic nervous system resumes breathing, if you become unconscious). Understand panic attacks, and what triggers them, in your life (if it is unresolved anxiety, or stress, see sections 6, or 42, respectively). The paper bag method works for most people: try it.



If you are fairly suggestible, the following are reliable: http://www.hypnosisdownloads.com/

Your last alternative is psychotherapy, to address its fundamental cause: read section 1, and examine the http://1-800-therapist.com/ website, and use the locators, and phone book. I used to suffer from panic attacks, until I questioned what had changed in my life, at, or just before that time, to trigger them. For some people, this is enough. These days, I have instilled the habit of, whenever a situation occurs where panic is likely, I visualise a large, "STOP!" sign, as vividly as possible, followed by repeating to myself: "stay calm" in my mind. You could try the same method. It usually takes 30 - 40 repetitions, for most people, to establish a new habit. I also suggest that you learn, then practise the controlled breathing technique, until competent, then employ it, at the very first sign of a panic attack.



Practice one of the relaxation methods on pages 2, 11, 2c, or 2i, daily, and when needed. Also, give the EFT a good tryout, to see if it helps you. There is also a version for use in public places, (if you like, you can claim to have a headache, as you massage/lightly tap your temples, but you would then be restricted to subvocalising: saying it to yourself in your mind). Section 53, and pages 2, 2.q and 2.o at http://www.ezy-build.net.nz/~shaneris also refer: "Even though I sometimes suffer from panic attacks, I deeply and completely accept myself." Note: the controlled breathing only helps with the symptoms (as do medications/herbal remedies): you need to address the underlying cause, and this requires some form of therapy, and Cognitive Behavio(u)ral Therapy has proved effective.



Advice from a published psychiatrist on controlled breathing. (1.) Get a clock, or watch with a second timer. (2.) Practise for 5 minutes, 4 times daily, until proficient. (3.) Take a small breath in, and hold it, for 6 seconds. (4.) Think to yourself: "RELAX", just before breathing out. (5.) Try to feel a sense of releasing tension, as you breathe out. (6.) Breathe in for 3 seconds, then out, for 3 seconds. Try to make your breathing very smooth, and light, as you breathe in through your nose, and out through your mouth, or nose. (7.) For the next minute, continue to breathe in, and out, every 3 seconds. (8.) Go back to step 3, at the end of the minute, and proceed through to step 7, doing this for 5 minutes. Use this at the very first sign of a panic attack starting, or any time you feel anxious, or tense.



Because many people can't access/afford professional therapy, I include the EFT, and EMDR variant for them to try, free of charge. Cognitive Behavio(u)ral Therapy is generally available in most areas, but EMDR (see section 33) may well be worth trying, and is becoming more widespread. (The following is a variant of EMDR therapy, which has been used successfully for those people suffering from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, insomnia, and anxiety: it is easily learned, quick to use, yet can be very effective. It is currently the subject of much study by neuroscientists, to discover how it works. Don't dismiss it, merely because it seems a little strange: give it a tryout!). Prior to using either of the methods in the above paragraph, or using it on its own, first sit comfortably, and take a deep breath.



Then, without moving your head, move your eyes from the left, to the right, and back again, taking around a second to do so (say: a thousand and one: this takes approximately a second). Repeat this procedure (without the words, although you can count, subvocally if you like) 20 times. Then close your eyes and relax. Become aware of any tension or discomfort you feel. Then open your eyes, and take another deep breath, and repeat step one, closing your eyes, and relaxing afterwards, in the same manner. Then, repeat the procedure one last time. Some people may find that this is all they need do. With experience, you may find that you can practise this in public, with your eyes closed, which greatly widens the window of opportunity for its use, and avoids attracting unwanted attention.



It may also help to minimise, or eliminate sugar, and caffeine products from your life. Xylitol, or Stevia is preferable, (health food stores) or fruit sugar (fructose, such as "Fruisana", from supermarket sugar aisles) or even a little honey, because these will reduce "sugar spikes", which later deplete you of energy. Minimise/eliminate consumption of highly processed foods, particularly grain products, such as white bread, donuts, cake, cookies/biscuits, or anything with sugar. Opt for more wholefoods, non-starchy vegetables, and fruit. ======================== ==================== ====================== ANXIETY: I recommend first trying the alternatives, (which only treat the symptoms, using supplements like inositol, and SAMe, or herbal remedies, such as c(h)amomile but the cause, as well) using the EMDR variant, EFT, and relaxation techniques. The anxiolytics/antidepressants will still be there, should the alternatives prove insufficient for you, but give them a tryout period of several weeks, first.



See anxiety treatments, at ezy build (below) in section 6. Set yourself a specific time period for worrying about anything, (say; around three quarters of an hour, possibly when you get home, or after your evening meal, but not too close to bedtime) after which, resolve firmly to refuse to even entertain the thought of worrying again on that day: realise and accept that to do otherwise would be counterproductive to your mental health, and enjoyment of life.



You will have had your "worry time" for the day, and can just write down any more thoughts that come to mind, and say to yourself: "Well, I'll just have to worry about that tomorrow, won't I?". It is important to deal with a negative internal monologue (self talk), or mental process, such as disturbing thoughts, or images, by the process of (a): recognising it, and (b): challenging it immediately.



When you notice something negative, such as: "I'm never going to get over this!" or: "Why am I always so pathetic/useless/such a loser?" or even: "I can't do this/will never get over this!", or a disturbing image, recognise that this is part of the mindset which will hold you back from progressing in your recovery. Having identified and labelled it, I first visualise a large "STOP!" sign, then I say to myself as forcefully as you can, even aloud in a big voice, if alone: "I know this tactic: GO AWAY FOR A WHILE !!!" You may want to use either: "ruse", "ploy", "game", or "trick", instead of "tactic". In the case of an image, visualise a large "STOP" sign, or your preferred version. Some people go so far as to keep a wide rubber band in their pocket, then put it around their wrist, when they catch themselves backsliding, stretch and release it, as a method of reprogramming their mind sooner, but I don't regard it as being strictly necessary. Remember to remove it, afterwards, if you use this method.



Practice one of the relaxation methods in sections 2, 11, 2c, or 2i, daily, and when needed. Alternatively, give the EFT a good tryout, to see if it helps you. There is also a version for use in public places, (if you like, you can claim to have a headache, as you massage/lightly tap your temples, but you would then be restricted to subvocalising: saying it to yourself in your mind). Section 53, and pages 2, 2.q and 2.o at http://www.ezy-build.net.nz/~shaneris also refer: "Even though I sometimes suffer from anxiety, I deeply and completely accept myself." Neurofeedback treatment for anxiety is increasingly becoming available. Herbal remedies, such as valerian, (which is not for use if depression is also present) passionflower, St.John's wort, are often effective, but the idea is (as with anxiolytic medication) to use them like water wings, or training wheels on a bicycle, providing initial support, and giving time for other treatments, such as therapy, and relaxation techniques, to take effect.


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